The Safety of Others
Interview
by SM Editor Noralil Ryan Fores—ShortEnd Magazine Issue 1.15/July 2007
Crafting her debut
short film The Safety of
Others was perhaps a process much
more complex that film director Jenni Tooley expected. Looking through the lens
of a disenchanted thirty-something officer worker Dennis, unwilling and unable
to reach out to a woman he cares about, the short leans on TooleyÕs unshakable
senses of compassion, empathy and ultimate
sweetness.
The short
structure, however, is all but simple, running as it does as one long internal
monologue. No matter the filmmaker, the choice is a ballsy move, and one that
caused Tooley no little amount of script frustration and revision. Iteration
after iteration, the script Òevolved into what it wanted to be, which is much
more of a conventional piece than I had originally written,Ó Tooley says. ÒTo a
certain extent you control the story, but thereÕs a point at which you have to
let go of it and let it evolve on its own. It definitely told me where it
needed to go, even though sometimes I didnÕt want to go there with it.Ó
Adding challenge to
challenge, Tooley also grappled with writing from a male perspective, a feat
that many women writers shy from in early scripts. "The response IÕve
gotten from a lot of guys is, ÔIÕve been there. I know what that is.Õ It taught
me that thereÕs a human perspective, which I knew but this verified it for me,Ó
Tooley says. ÒWeÕre all interlinked, and thatÕs important to me.Ó
In part a story
about unrequited love and in part one of self-acceptance, the short dances in
experimentation, though primarily its concern is in telling an honest and
straight-forward story. Here
Tooley speaks about the meanings of her title,
working with lead actor Jeffrey Schmidt and first time filmmaking lessons to
note.
SM: Now the
idea of Ôthe safety of othersÕ—IÕve gathered my own ideas about it, but
what does that entail for you?
JT: A lot of people
come to it from the love story angle, just the story about Dennis and the
woman. In that respect, it means for her, ÒI cannot be with you outside the
safety of others.Ó She canÕt trust herself outside of a group. She doesnÕt know
what sheÕs capable of feeling or doing.
ItÕs the same thing with Dennis.
For me The Safety of Others is really about Dennis finding himselfÉWhat heÕs
done is heÕs buried himself within the safety of these other people so that he
doesnÕt have to come to terms with his identity, with who he is and the fact
that he doesnÕt fit in with these people. ThatÕs what it is. ÔThe safety of
othersÕ—a person burying themselves within a group of other people to
escape themselves.
SM:
Talking
about the character of Dennis, I was hoping that you could talk about casting
Jeffrey Schmidt, how that came about and what you were drawn to in his acting.
JT: A few weeks
before we went to shoot, (our actor) dropped out. So I had some more casting
sessions in New York and a bunch in Dallas. I met Jeff 10 or 15 years ago in
DallasÉIt didnÕt really jump at me, ÒOh, I should get Jeff to do this,Ó
immediately. I kept watching the tapes, and I kept thinking, ÒJeffÕs this guy.Ó
What attracted me
to him is that first off heÕs aged
beautifully. HeÕs gorgeous. HeÕs gorgeous in
this way that heÕs also awkward. People like him almost as a George Clooney,
but at the same time heÕs got this Mr. Bean quality, a Rowan Atkinson quality.
ThatÕs what I really liked. He fit in with the people. He wasnÕt too pretty,
but he wasnÕt too awkward...I get completely taken in by JeffÕs performance
every single time. I get lost in what heÕs doing. I think what he does is very
subtle and very simple.
SM: With
the awkwardness of this character, itÕs almost as if itÕs a bravado of not
fitting in. It went beyond him just not fitting in to a desire not to fit in. I
kept thinking, ÒIf Dennis just tried, he could fit in.Ó ThereÕs a lovely
self-reflection and
self-absorption to that, but I donÕt know if thatÕs exactly
where you meant to come from.
JT: (The woman he
is in love with) is the catalyst for this moment in his life where everything
just starts to bubble up. All the things that heÕs suppressing about himself,
that heÕs trying to keep under wraps about himself are starting to say, ÒHey,
IÕm here.Ó He really doesnÕt like himself, and he judges himself critically, so
he judges everyone else. In a way, that is that bravado that youÕre talking
about. But, whatÕs heÕs also doing is just starting to accept, ÒHey, this is
who I am.Ó ThatÕs really what the storyÕs about. It doesnÕt get to that
solution. ItÕs not resolved, but thatÕs what heÕs moving toward. ItÕs one
of
those moments of spiritual awakening that heÕs in the middle of, but he hasnÕt
gotten there yet.
SM: You
talked a little bit earlier about the script revision and evolution. I was
hoping that you could extrapolate on that.
JT: At the time of
the shoot, we sat down and recorded all of the voice-overÉThen after we did the
production, I brought Jeff in to do another recording because heÕd learned so
much about the character by actually being the character.
Then I sat down and
put a cut together. I sent the cut to (Bruce Richardson), the sound designer,
and I sent him the music. I basically placed all the voice-over on one sound
line, and he went in, started smoothing it and adjusting it. We worked like
that for six months. We got to the Sundance deadline, and I turned in a rough
cut. I was like, ÒYou know, this thing doesnÕt work.Ó People hated the
character, and it was really important to me that you like Dennis. HeÕs not a
stalker; he not a jerk; heÕs just a confused guy. At that point we were coming
up on the Slamdance deadline, and I re-cut it again. I sat with (husband Jeremy
Schwartz), and we watched it. I knew it was not working, and Jeremy said, ÒI
think youÕre going to have to interweave another score
with the soundtrack with
the voice-over.Ó At that point, I just started crying. I was like, ÒI canÕt!Ó I
knew what he had told me was what IÕd already known, and he just confirmed it.
Rather than go find somebody to score it, I just thought, ÒIÕm going to rewrite
it.Ó
It was missing the
sense of my quirky-ness and DennisÕ quirky-ness, the softer, more magical
side... The poetry was missing out of it. At that point I rewrote it, flew down
to Dallas, saw Jeff again, who was so kind to come back into the studio. Bruce,
Jeff and I sat down for another six hours. As Jeff worked, I would listen and
see what was working coming out of his mouth and what wasnÕt, what he was
connected to and what he wasnÕt. Then I continued
rewriting like that as we
recorded it. By the end of the day our goal was that weÕd have everything
plugged in.
I got a copy of it
while I was still in Dallas, and I was at a hotel. I had on my little tiny
headset—crappy little headset—and I got through the bathroom scene,
which had never, ever worked, and tears were rolling down my face. I called
Bruce, and I was like, ÒOh, my God, it made me cry.Ó HeÕs like, ÒIs that good?Ó
SM: What is
the greatest lesson youÕve learned through all this process, specifically
having gone to
South By Southwest, AFI Dallas and World Fest?
JT: Get out of the
way. Do your work, but donÕt have expectations. Do what you need to do to serve
the project and the people who worked on the project, but donÕt have any
expectations of where you are going to end up.
SM: Will
you be let down if you create expectations to early, or is it a fear of change?
JT: If you
have
expectations about how something is supposed to be or something is supposed to
go, then what happens is you arenÕt actually able to appreciate what does come,
whether itÕs that big thing you were looking for or a smaller thing thatÕs
happening. You close your eyes to all the other things that are going on and
all of the opportunities that you may have.
For more
information on the film and upcoming projects, visit www.tooleybox.com.
Editor's
Liner Notes: During our interview, IÕd
asked Jenni how it was that The
Safety of Others was produced on a
rather limited budget for a short done strictly on film with multiple locations
and numerous background players. Along with telling me about to-the-rescue
donation of services and the tireless work of Co-Producer Angie Meyer, she
added this response to that question later on in an
e-mail:
How I do appreciate
that question since the typical version of that question is, ÒYou shot a short
film on a $25,000 budget? A short not a feature?Ó But being a self-taught
filmmaker, it was important to me that the film was of a high production
quality; I had some things to prove. It just happened to be that the short film
that I wrote wasn't of the no-budget model. "I think I'll make a short
film with three locations (one being a bar) and 40 extras." I knew that
that was the amount of money I had to spend to get it there. I consider
it the money I
didn't spend on tuition.
People often ask me how we got the extras; obtaining low-budget background extras is a mystical process. We needed 40 extras to show up for three consecutive days working crappy hours (3am-3pm). Here's what we did: this is where it pays to have a good/experienced AD/Co-Producer on board. We called a casting director and asked her to help out. For $150, I gave her specs and she pulled about 60-70 people. I narrowed down to 50. She contacted them with the info. We paid $25/day paid on the third day and raffled an iPod shuffle. We also treated them like day players with respect and courtesy. They ate the same food--I feed crews well-- and hung out in the same holding areas. I met them all and tried to remember names. We only lost a couple. It was an $1800 budget line for a major part of the film.